These two talks are packed with information and insights. Mitra Karl compares and contrasts the Indian and Tibetan Doha tradition. We learn about three types of Indian songs, their characteristics and lineage, but this information is not simply a collection of facts. Mitra Karl’s teaching explains the common dharma themes presented in these songs. He provides information about the songs that helps us understand that their essential meaning is not in their words, but in the experience they invoke in our present mind. Mitra Karl teaches the melodies for several songs and presents profound commentary on their meaning. His engaging stories about the activities of the mahasiddhas are simultaneously profound teachings on the ultimate meditation, view, and action. Throughout these two talks, Mitra Karl generously provided opportunities for questions.